The Capitol Takeover: A Prelude to Civil War?

By: claycormany in Life in General

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  1. This has been a topic of great conversation in my world for the last couple of years. I think we have been inching towards last week for a long time, a serious step towards civil war. We now have a window of opportunity to unite under President Biden. Part of the action required is to teach and practice anti racism. If we dont act, the next attempt to change our government might be successful. I hope our fears are unfounded too. In the meantime…I’m thinking about my bugout bag:)

    1. Yes, our new President does need to try to unite the nation, as hard as that will be. And please — don’t think about “bugging out” just yet. Becky and I enjoy having you near us in Worthington.

  2. Hi, Clay — Great blogpost. I’ve actually been having a discussion with people about whether we’ve been in a “Cold Civil War” for some time. It’s clear there have always been at least two Americas — we see this along geographical lines, for instance, most notably along how there are still significant portions of the country that embrace the Confederacy as a noble, undefeated cause rather than an armed uprising that had slavery among its platforms.

    If you’re a racial minority, like me, you know that your treatment vis a vis the people you interact with will too often be based on their perceptions of race and where they place you accordingly along some continuum in their mind. The nation seems to only have broad discussions on the matter when problems erupt, and then too often the issues are only Black and White when many groups face problems.

    So, the divisions have been there, further exacerbated by pundits like Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Hannity, and their various allies and imitators and connections to other large groups, like evangelicals. Those efforts have been out in the open for decades.

    All of this is an oversimplification, of course — not all Southerners ally themselves with the Confederacy nor do all evangelicals adhere to the right-wing rhetoric of Limbaugh and crew, for example. But clearly, the nation has been divided for some time, and people have been choosing sides.

    What Trump has done is given license to the division on a national scale — he has, in effect, unified groups who share the same or similar ideology and radicalized their beliefs. The insurrection was an expression of that — whether the insurrectionists truly believed they had permission from Trump or not, they’ve used it as an excuse for violence and rebellion.

    Do I think it will go further than this? Sadly, I don’t this was a one-time event. I suspect some states will face real problems on January 20. There will be more threats and random violence, especially against minorities. It’s clear that neo-Nazis and other hate groups have infiltrated the police and military (well, they were always there, but now they’re a lot more emboldened). For a while, at least, things may not be as out in the open because the insurrection has put the nation on the watch for such activity. But it will surface. While we may not have an armed Civil War, we’re clearly in the throes of a shadowy cold one. How far it goes will be determined by whether this country has the moral courage to arrest and prosecute the insurrectionists and their enablers.

    1. Thank you, Steve, for your insightful comments. As you suggest, the scope and substance of the second “civil war” will depend on whether the nation has “the moral courage” to go after the insurrectionists and put them behind bars. The new Biden Administration will have to take the lead in doing that. There’s one other variable to consider. What is Trump himself going to do after he leaves office? Is he going to slip off to Mar-a-lago for a quiet life of luxury or is he going to continue rallying his “troops” to further acts of violence? I hope for the former but I fear the latter.

  3. Thanks Clay. I’ve wondered the same thing. Do you think that many of those who voted for Trump were actually voting against a perceived (if exaggerated) threat of socialism? Too, I wonder how many of them will defect from their support of Trump given the events of the past week. I’m hanging onto hope that many of them are not simply blind Trump supporters and therefore may be open to Biden’s leadership. In my opinion, Joe Biden’s relationship with John McCain is iconic of a creative approach to political differences–a creativity that can possibly moderate the opposing tensions currently at play. If so, perhaps Joe Biden will have a chance to be an exceptionally effective if not a great president. What do you think? Wishful thinking?

    1. Those are good questions, Jim. I think most rank-and-file Trump supporters will accept Biden’s leadership at least for awhile. As you say, the Biden-McCain relationship offers a positive model for dealing with political differences. In the immediate future, however, the most important thing may be for a fair number of Republicans in Congress to support Trump’s impeachment and conviction. If that happens, Republicans across the nation will be encouraged to not only accept Biden’s leadership, but also to resist supporting any disruptive tactics Trump may initiate after leaving office. Of course, Trump’s ultra-right supporters — the kind that assaulted the Capitol — are a whole other matter. At the very least, the FBI and Homeland Security need to keep those people under close surveillance.

    1. That’s interesting. My guess is the increased gun sales are being made by people who expect the incoming Administration will make it tougher to buy guns in the future.

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